Mark Somgynari is the studio & equipment manager, AND the go
to guy for Ironworks.....
Tim: Can you describe
a typical day at Ironworks?
Capt Mark: Well it's not typical...!
Depending on whether it's a session day or an editing/mixing day, it can
be totally different. Session days mean we have musicians come in to lay
down tracks or add overdubs to songs we're working on, so there's the dynamic
and buzz of getting everything working together and keeping a cool vibe.
Those are the most hectic, and exciting by far for me, since that's the
stereotypical (pardon the pun) scene you imagine when you think of a recording
studio. Learning a song, trying different tempos and beats, stumbling upon
something magic that was actually a flub...live.
Editing/Mixing days are the more tedious, since that's where you take
the things form the Session day that you thought were PERFECT and realize
"almost perfect" was the more accurate description. Here's where you can
spend hours just getting an intro sounding right, or you can try 5 different
approaches to a section (or more!) and not find the magic combination that
keeps you from being sick of hearing the same chorus for the 112th time
that day! But here in the trenches is where the hard work pays off, and
this is the part where Jude and Florian Ammon (our head engineer... he's
"German":-) earn the blue chips. My part during these days is really more
in getting them the sounds they want from the gear, and having things set
up and working on a whim when an idea needs tried out. I make it a point
to stay out of the control room unless needed on editing days, because
a) this part sucks, and b) sometimes I can be of a (very) little help when
they ask my opinion of how something sounds with fresh ears. But, mostly
a)... :-)
Tim: Well it's
been a banner year for Ironworks. With the release just a few weeks ago
of your first artist Rocco DeLuca's "I Trust You To Kill Me." Of course,
there must be other artists in "The Works." I understand Ironworks has
branched out to a different style of artist. Call you tell us a little
about Booyay?
Capt Mark: Booyay is a young (17
if I'm not mistaken) extremely talented up and coming rap artist.
This kid is the "real deal"; he grew up in, and from, the streets, and
was a gang member whose talents were actually discovered in the LA
juvi prison system. He writes some of the most powerful word-pictures about
his life, his fallen friends, and his will to survive that you'll ever
hear. He's amazingly prolific and prophetic. We've done a few tracks with
him in-house, and we're developing outside beats with some A-list
guys from the hip-hop world who have also seen this kid's talent and potential.
Tim: Ironworks hasn't been limited
to just American artists. What can we expect from the name of Ry Cuming?
Capt Mark: Ry Cuming is the 21 year
old Aussie surfer-singer-songwriter included in one of our "eXtra" TV segments
about Ironworks. He came in last year and did a couple of demos, which
we fell in love with. We've been trying to get him back here for
a full album, but the MoZella and Rocco records, PLUS various song demos
and such has us just now getting round to doing it. I'm pretty sure
his record will be our summer 2005 project, which with his style will be
COOL! This guy is a chick magnet like I've never seen, which is why I personally
hate him... :-) Seriously, a NICE guy with a natural pop sensibility to
his writing that I think combined with Jude's direction/production will
connect with people, and radio.
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Tim: So what is attracting artists
to Ironworks? Are there others waiting to be recorded?
Capt. Mark: As far as other Ironworks
Artists, we're always looking...But, HEY, we're in the GREAT position of
already gaining a reputation of working "with" artists, and not trying
to morph somebody into something they're not. And seeing that draws to
us the kinds of real artists we love. The kinds that, frankly, most major
and even bigger indie labels now don't have the time or mechanism in place
to nurture and develop. EVERYONE we've chose to work with has something
about them or going for them that we want to amplify; a heartfelt inner
spark, a real soul... Sure, a good look IS important-Video DID kill the
Radio Star...I don't want to sound cliché OR naive. But
artists like Rocco and Ry... You could stick a lousy $30 Radio Shack micro-cassette
in front of them with just a guitar, and their passion and true talent
would explode out that 2" speaker. Anybody listen to Jude's Bluebird
shows lately?? I rest my case...
Tim: Of
course we know Ironworks can provide a great recording opportunity to an
artist, but how do you go about distributing the CD product once it's recorded?
Capt. Mark: We're fortunate
enough to have a couple of avenues available to us, because of the industry
clout Jude has as a writer, producer, and manager, and, to a point, the
podium Kiefer has as a major celeb. As I've mentioned before, major
labels and many indies don't have a way of grass roots developing and nurturing
an artist. The days of big A&R departments, nationwide scouts and the
like, are history. These days, a singer/songwriter or self-contained band
have to prove they can sell thousands of CD's themselves, and have 90%
of a world class finished product in place, or they'll just as soon pass
on signing you. I hate using the word "product", because it's 180 degrees
away from how we look at artists, and that's how majors have to look at
someone's blood, sweat, and tears... Maybe "finished presentation" is better.
So we do our best to have both ends covered; we'll always believe we have
the "finished presentation" or it'll never see the light of day. And we
have a core group of dedicated (read insane) people who see our excitement,
believe in what we do, and go above and beyond to further the cause. So
while we've got newer artists honing their craft in front of large crowds
opening for national acts, we've got people sitting on their living room
floors stuffing envelopes with CD's, and TV producers asking what more
can they do to help... It's a pretty cool time to be on the ground floor
of the skyscraper...
Tim: What medium
will you use to market it to the masses?
Capt. Mark: Any that make
sense to the artist's direction. As you know, we've
had "some" prime-time TV exposure. The Internet is the new millennium’s
"word of mouth." And we're blessed with long-time web fans of Jude's and
Kiefer's that know if they are behind a project it probably won't
suck! And J&K are so appreciative of the response we've
received it's humbling...And because of their long-time relationship with
the film/TV industry, I'm certain you'll be seeing more Ironworks Artists
songs showing up on TV shows, soundtracks, etc.. And we'll continue marketing
our CD's and such thru our website, www.ironworksmusic.com, and on
each corresponding artists' site. In the case of Rocco, his site, www.roccodeluca.com
also has links to buy CD's and other related goodies. And there's the Amazon,
eBay, iTunes, and other venues too.
Tim: Of
course to a true artist, CD sales are not the only mark of success. However,
we all know an artist has to live. How can the Ironworks system turn a
profit for everyone involved?
Capt. Mark: I personally quit
taking the limo to Jack-in-the-Box for lunch months ago...:-) ( I actually
did that once with Journey back in ancient times) But seriously folks,
there's not a whole lot of bureaucracy or middle men getting a cut here.
Jude has said before that the Ironworks gang really is a multi-tasking
outfit to the extreme. If you can't do at least three things well enough
to have each of them be your career, and do them usually all at the same
time, then you can't hang here. Jude has five or six, depending on if it's
radio day (Tuesday-when the ratings come out). Thank God we clicked in
with the right group of those people right at this time, and thank God
for Jenn-Jude's assistant, quasi tour manager, quasi receptionist, and
full time Den Mother.
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Tim: With Jude
behind the controls in the studio, his free time must be limited. Many
people keep asking "when can we expect a new CD from Da Man?" What has
he recorded so far?
Capt. Mark: I'm guessing there's
at least 5 or 6 songs in various stages of "doneness" that could be album
worthy with a pointed effort. (not including a few cover tunes done in
fun) Song's like "Loving You Ain't Loving Me" were done as songwriting
demos; unless you are shopping it to a specific artist to record, you purposely
don't zero in (or pigeonhole it) with a full production so as to leave
"room for interpretation". If Jude chose to put one on his next solo record,
that's exactly what he would do too. As far as when a new record would
be?? ...jeez... I think a logical progression would have to lead up to
it. Right now, I'm hoping that he'll do the show he promised the
Yahoo board sometime this fall. I think (hope) by doing that he'll
find the inspiration & motivation to tighten up an album concept.
And by that I mean he would want a theme to base a new album on;
not just throw the first 12 unsold demos on a disc. All his solo
efforts have been themed statements; Falling Home, IDKWIATW, VF3S, even
STC have a thread of consistency summed up in their titles. He's mentioned
more than once just calling some "friends" and doing a quick record of
blues covers (he has a MEAN "Reconsider, Baby" in the can round here somewhere).
I have a title in my head for his next one that I've mentioned to him...I'll
leave it at that for now.
Tim: Do
you think there will ever be a chance Jude will release songs from the
legendary 88 song A View from 3rd Street recording era? I personally had
an idea that he could put them together, and call it "Looking back at 3rd
Street" or "An Extended View of 3rd Street." What's your insight on his
recordings? How do they sound?
Capt. Mark: As an "official"
package? Honestly, no. But I'll guarantee there will be more snippets that
surface from them. (In fact I'll have something from "back in the day"
for you in a few days) This is why I'm happy there are "unofficial" sites
like yours, and the resurrected JCafe, Chris' site, etc. that provide an
avenue for stuff like this to be heard and accessed, and to leave the
Yahoo board as a board.
My insight? Well, I guess I should leave you with a couple of teasers...Did
you know there's a whole OTHER record full of songs from BEFORE #1 that
didn't get picked up? They're a pretty cool bridge between The Records
and what became #1-more pop-rock, less ballads, etc. How about a version
of "Joe" that is more John Mellencamp than...John Mellancamp?(think ROCK
in the USA!) I've found hours of session tapes for IDKWIATW where
impromptu 70's jams broke out of legitimate attempts to get a take. "Chevy
Van", anyone?
Other than the first, first record- (#0?) which so far only exists
on cassette made from a DAT, the quality overall is excellent. There's
boxes more of tapes to go thru...if it's there, it'll be found.
Thanks for the questions and support. From all of us @ Ironworks.
Tim: Thanks Capt. for your insight
on Ironworks!
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